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Expert says leases signed for $18,000 per acre in productive areas of Texas.

By Rory Sweeneyrsweeney@timesleader.com
Staff Writer

TUNKHANNOCK – Around January, Cal Otten’s parents signed a lease at $125 per acre to allow natural-gas exploration on their Forkston Township property in Wyoming County. Had they waited until now, they probably could have received $2,500 per acre.

That’s what Otten was offered a week ago.

“I thought $125 was a lot, actually, at the time,” said Otten, who owns 140 acres near his parents’ property.

Do a little math and you’ll see Otten’s parents made about $34,375 on their 275 acres. Not a bad haul for anyone, much less a couple in their golden years.

Cal Otten is holding out, even though he stood to gain $350,000. He wants a higher stake in the royalties if gas is ever extracted from his land, which means, yes, companies are giving away money on the speculation that they might find gas.

But that speculation is grounded in science, testing and history. Experts believe the thick Marcellus Shale that stretches deep underground from Kentucky to New York, including parts of Luzerne County, has the potential to produce as much natural gas as similar shale deposits in northern Texas.

Kenneth L. Balliet, a forestry and business management educator with the Penn State Cooperative Extension, recently took a trip to Fort Worth to see the economic impacts of those deposits. He said leases are being signed for $18,000 per acre in areas where production has proven strong.

Though there are only about 20 wells in Pennsylvania so far, Balliet expects local production to eventually rival Texas’ Barnett Shale. He said a gas company confided it plans to spend $1 billion this year in leasing agreements in Pennsylvania.

The Marcellus deposit is probably about four times as big as the Texas shale, he said, and a Penn State geologist has estimated that if just a tenth of the gas is recovered, it could fulfill America’s natural gas demand for two years.

“We’re talking lots of changes going on in the communities in terms of jobs: welders, pipe fitters, mechanics, construction,” he said.

Rod McGuirk, a Franklin Township landowner, believes the rush hasn’t yet hit Luzerne County, but it’s coming.

“A lot’s going to happen in the next few months if this keeps going as it’s going. We’re just in the forefront of this,” he said.

He received an offer of $300 per acre on his 56 acres about eight months ago, but hasn’t received another one since. He’s used that time to attend information meetings around Towanda so that he’s savvier when the offers start increasing rapidly.

“We’re where they were eight or nine months ago,” he said. “We want to do this on our terms. We don’t want an environmental disaster in 10 years.”

He’s waiting for a certain offer on his land, but wants to cash in before companies start drilling too much.

“It’s a double-edged sword,” he said. “All they have to do is drill three dry wells, and you don’t get squat.”

Matthew Golden, a West Pittston lawyer who’s offered to negotiate for some Franklin Township landowners, said the trick is straddling the line between getting top dollar and retaining enough rights to protect the land.

“That’s the $10,000 question: When’s the right time to sign and at what price? There are more variables than just the price,” he said, such as lease length, royalties, retaining the right to approve where wells go and securing separate payments for pipeline rights of way.

He suggested landowners have a lawyer look over proposed contracts.

“The standard company lease without any changes to it is bad. It gives away basically all the rights. They can pretty much put a well wherever they want. They’re limited to the barebones the state will allow, which is a lot. Pennsylvania is a pretty pro-drilling state,” he said.

But if sited correctly, Balliet said, wells can be environmentally benign.

“It just takes a little bit of planning,” he said. “Does that mean nothing can happen? No, that’s not true. It can and sometimes it does.”

He recommended landowners get their groundwater tested for oil and gas contaminants now to create a benchmark. Then, they have “something to stand on” if there is a problem, he said.

In the end, landowners must choose a number to accept and make peace with the decision.

“You have to do it with the knowledge that three months from now, the price could be 10 percent of what it is now or 1,000 percent of what it is now,” Golden said.

Rory Sweeney, a Times Leader staff writer, may be reached at 970-7418.

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Real-estate pros say chance of lucrative deals causing less land to be available for sale.

By Rory Sweeneyrsweeney@timesleader.com
Staff Writer

Listings for land are virtually nonexistent in northern Luzerne and Wyoming counties, thanks to landowners hoping to cash in on natural-gas leasing rights.

“If people want to come up to buy land, there’s really not much to show them, if anything. And that’s a factor of the gas situation,” said Donna LaBar, who owns Century 21 Sherlock Homes Inc. offices in Clarks Summit and Tunkhannock.

It’s an unfavorable situation for anyone hoping to join in on the profits from gas exploration in the area. Companies are banking that a vast, but deep, layer of rock called Marcellus Shale contains natural gas deposits.

Landowners in Wyoming County and other northern counties have been offered $2,500 per acre to sign away the gas rights. Those offers have skyrocketed with recent drilling success.

In January, some landowners signed for just hundreds of dollars per acre.

Early estimates hold that the amount of gas that potentially could be extracted from the entire layer, which stretches from upstate New York to Virginia, including parts of Luzerne County, could fulfill the country’s natural gas consumption for two years.

The deposits have been known for decades, but technology only recently has improved enough to make extraction economically feasible.

LaBar, a real-estate broker since 1984, said prices in the residential market are holding steady and properties are available.

“The normal market, which would just be the residential sales market, is still pretty much normal. Average market for this time of year,” she said.

However, the number of available tracts larger than 5 acres drops off significantly, she said. “People just aren’t really selling their land right now because they’re looking forward to royalties for the gas leases,” LaBar said.

The effect is more pronounced at her Tunkhannock office, she said. “It’s mostly the northern tier,” she said.

Several Luzerne County real-estate agents said land is still available in northern townships, such as Franklin and Lake, where shale deposits are predicted.

The industry is in its infancy, and few landowners who’ve signed up have actually seen royalty checks. However, if the deposit is anything like the Barnett Shale in Texas that it’s being compared to, drilling could become lucrative. Barnett has proven results, and The Dallas Morning News recently reported that leases are being signed near Fort Worth for $25,000 per acre.

LaBar said local landowners are now viewing their land differently. Before, it was simply an investment that had a tax liability.

Now, she said, “it could be actually an income asset for them, and it’s all yet to be seen.”

Rory Sweeney, a Times Leader staff writer, may be reached at 970-7418.

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By Rory Sweeneyrsweeney@timesleader.com
Staff Writer

With lucrative natural-gas lease offers coming to Luzerne County, landowners are beginning to pool their land, resources and knowledge to score the best deals possible.

Gas companies are rushing to secure the rights to a layer of rock called Marcellus Shale. The shale is deep underground, perhaps as far as 8,000 feet, and stretches from upstate New York to Virginia. Though solid, the rock holds natural gas under intense pressure. The resource has been known for decades, but technology only recently improved enough to extract it economically.

One issue landowners might not be able to control is determining who owns the rock and gas.

“That’s a tough question. Eventually what’s going to happen is when push comes to shove … they’re going to do title searches” back about 150 years, said John Zucosky, who is part of a Franklin Township landowners’ group. His research, he said, produced evidence that gas and oil might not be included in the mineral rights. He said he hasn’t heard anything about anyone claiming to own the rights.

Many Franklin Township residents have attended meetings at which Matthew Golden, a West Pittston lawyer who’s worked in the gas industry, has outlined the leasing, drilling and clean-up processes. He pointed out companies will attempt to exploit landowners’ ignorance to get them to sign unfavorable leases.

“There’s a great disparity in knowledge between the companies’ land men and the landowners. This could open them (landowners) up to some risk,” Golden said.

Zucosky’s group, which is accepting new members, owns 1,500 contiguous acres in Franklin Township.

Zucosky said he got involved nearly a year ago when a Texas company offered to buy the mineral rights on his 100 acres for $300 per acre. Initially, he suspected it was akin to an e-mail scam, but some Internet researching convinced him the offer was genuine and that he could probably get a better one.

“I saw that contract. You have to be pretty naive to sign something like that,” he said. If the situation is as experts suggest, Zucosky said, “there’s a whole bunch of money involved.”

He’s already witnessing the rush. An offer of $2,000 per acre increased by $500 within a few days without any prodding from owners, he said.

The group is ironing out which issues it wants addressed in contracts. Then it will consider offers, and once an offer is accepted, will hire a lawyer to finalize the contract, Zucosky said.

“We’re trying to put a package together to address all the things we want … to try to get the most we could,” he said. “This is a once-in-a-lifetime thing, I think, so what the heck.”

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For more information on gas leasing or to join a leasing group, go to www.pagaslease.com.

“I saw that contract. You have to be pretty naive to sign something like that.”

Landowner John Zucosky

On offer for his mineral rights
Rory Sweeney, a Times Leader staff writer, may be reached at 970-7418.

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